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  Has anyone actually read the study wt for sun nov 2nd????!!!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  o m g...(yes that is a very childish reaction...but i couldn't think of a more appropriate expression!).

  if you haven't yet read it...please do so..... it is so ridiculous!

  so leading, so distorted, and full of "bait and switch" techniques.. "prove you have the truth"..by seeing how neutral witnesses were in war times?

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  Island Man

  How do you spell "hypocrites"?

  W A T C H T O W E R
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  I am JW.ORG

  by LogCon in

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  famous quote from wuthering heights revised.. '... i am jw.org!

  it's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than i am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being.

  so don't talk of our separation again: it is impracticable...'.

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  Jesus: "Get these things out of here! Stop making the name of my Father the object of merchandise!"
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  their beliefs and practice's don't tally- tonights book study

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tonights book study in part is about jesus throwing out the merchants and money lenders in the temple... how do they manage to tally that up with asking for funds for all their various projects?

  it seems hardly a meeting goes by without some kind of money plea?

  don't they realise that they are doing the same thing that jesus got so angry about and threw out of the temple?

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  Island Man

  I just asked a question on yahoo answers, on the subject of this week's congregation bible study:

  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20141031074000AAxTxu0

  Let's see how the JWs respond
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  their beliefs and practice's don't tally- tonights book study

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tonights book study in part is about jesus throwing out the merchants and money lenders in the temple... how do they manage to tally that up with asking for funds for all their various projects?

  it seems hardly a meeting goes by without some kind of money plea?

  don't they realise that they are doing the same thing that jesus got so angry about and threw out of the temple?

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  Island Man

  The part about the pharisees defining what constitutes work and coming up with a myriad of man-made rules for the sabbath reminds me of Watchtower defining what constitutes feeding and what constitutes blood and coming up with a myriad of man-made rules stating which fractions you can have and which you can't.
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  their beliefs and practice's don't tally- tonights book study

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tonights book study in part is about jesus throwing out the merchants and money lenders in the temple... how do they manage to tally that up with asking for funds for all their various projects?

  it seems hardly a meeting goes by without some kind of money plea?

  don't they realise that they are doing the same thing that jesus got so angry about and threw out of the temple?

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  Island Man

  I think this weeks study provides a wonderful oppurtunity for Awake ones to share TTATTy comments that subtly point to JWs disparaging default view of all non-JWs and the use of man-made rules in the organization (e.g. no beards or no privileges)

  Lots of JWs are going to be having cognitive dissonance with this study. Let's take advantage of this.
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  How to Bewilder a Witness!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ask a witness what seems like a simple bible question: "nine verses in the bible tell us that jesus is going to judge the living and the dead.

  (john 5:28,29, acts 10:42, acts 17:31, romans 14:9, 2 cor.

  5:10, 2 tim.

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  Island Man

  The best way to disprove the JWs false interpretation of Romans 6:7 is to get them to read and explain for you, 2 Corinthians 5:6-10:

  We are therefore always of good courage and know that, while we have our home in the body, we are absent from the Lord, 7 for we are walking by faith, not by sight. 8 But we are of good courage and are well pleased rather to become absent from the body and to make our home with the Lord. 9 Therefore we are also making it our aim that, whether having our home with him or being absent from him, we may be acceptable to him. 10 For we must all be made manifest before the judgment seat of the Christ, that each one may get his award for the things done through the body, according to the things he has practiced, whether it is good or vile.

  From the context above, it is very clear that 2 Corinthians 5:10 is suggesting that unfaithful resurrected anointed ones will be judged for "vile things" committed "through the body", i.e. before they died!

  We also have Jesus' words at Matthew 11:20-24:

  Then he started to reproach the cities in which most of his powerful works had taken place, because they did not repent: 21 “Woe to you, Cho·ra′zin! Woe to you, Beth·sa′i·da! because if the powerful works had taken place in Tyre and Si′don that took place in YOU, they would long ago have repented in sackcloth and ashes. 22 Consequently I say to YOU, It will be more endurable for Tyre and Si′don on Judgment Day than for YOU. 23 And you, Ca·per′na·um, will you perhaps be exalted to heaven? Down to Ha′des you will come; because if the powerful works that took place in you had taken place in Sod′om, it would have remained until this very day. 24 Consequently I say to YOU people, It will be more endurable for the land of Sod′om on Judgment Day than for you.”

  Jesus reproached the people's lack of faith in him and indicated that they will be adversely judged for it on Judgment Day. Isn't Judgement Day that future time when the dead are raised up and judged? It surely is, for Jesus also mentions the people of Sodom having a better judgement and we all know that the people of Sodom were long dead in Jesus' day, so logically Jesus was here referring to the future judgment day when the dead will be raised up and judged. So Jesus was clearly suggesting that his first century audience who failed to put faith in him despite seeing his powerful works, will be judged for their lack of faith after they're resurrected at Judgement Day. They will be judged for showing lack of faith in Jesus, before they died!

  So I think these two bible passages can be used to reason with JWs to show them that their interpretation of Romans 6:7 is a false interpretation. In fact, a careful reading of the surrounding context of Romans 6:7 and using other translations, makes it clear that the scripture is not referring to acquittal from blame for ones sins, but rather, the body's acquittal from being enslaved to commit sins. The text is simply saying that a dead person is free from the compulsion to sin due to his body being inactive in/paralyzed by death.
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  INTERSTELLAR, is anyone else excited!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. friends

  from the moment i saw the preview, i became a little emotional.

  maybe because the main character is thinking of the future of his child?

  it does remind me of my struggles as a fading parent.

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  Island Man

  I am!
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  Thanks in Advance

  by ctrwtf in

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  so sorry, why is it that if i brush the keyboard the wrong way it posts an unfinished rant?.

  thanks in advance for reading my drivel.. .

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  Island Man

  " What irritates me most is that this phraseology assumes that the reader will do what is asked without thought or question, thus placing the writer of said phrase in a superior position."

  Not so. the phraseology assumes that the reader will do even more than what is asked without thought or question. Ever noticed how Watchtower coaches instructions as suggestions with words like "may wish to"? Do you remember that recent letter outlining the change in the kingdom hall loan arrangement that went something like: "In congregations currently repaying a kingdom hall loan, the elder may decide to table a motion for the congregation to donate a sum of money that is at least equal to the sum they are currently paying on a monthly basis."?

  Watchtower and its passive-aggressive method of psychological manipulation!
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  I AGREE WITH THE JWs: THE 'SOUL' DOESN'T EXIST

  by NAVYTOWN in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i agree with the witnesses about almost nothing, but i do think they have the right idea when it concerns the 'soul'.

  it is my belief that there is no such entity as a 'soul' that resides in a human being.

  the idea originated in ancient, pre-scientific eras.

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  Island Man

  " One things for sure: we'll all find out if there's an afterlife when our turn comes."

  If there's no afterlife we'll never find out because, being dead, we'll be unconscious of the fact that there is no afterlife. It would only be possible to find out that there is an afterlife (if there really is one) and it would be impossible to find out if there isn't one.
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  Was It Designed? Rabies Purposeful Mode of Transmission.

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was it designed?.

  rabies' purposeful mode of transmissionrabies is caused by a number of lyssaviruses that attack the cells of the nervous system disrupting their normal function.

  symptoms include painful spasms in the muscles of the throat and larynx of patients, accompanied by a strong aversion to drinking liquids - hydrophobia.

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  Island Man

  I'm glad you guys liked it - even though the formatting didn't come out exactly as I coded it in html.